We was robbed

I am still aghast about the selection of Tim Lincecum for the NL Cy Young award.  Chris Carpenter, the comeback story of the year, and Adam Wainwright, who was lights out all season, were ripped off.  Instead, this prestigious award is given to a pot smoking, long haired hippy from San Francisco.  Does he wear flowers in his hair?  Okay, maybe the hair is a non-factor.  But Lincecum can well afford a good hair stylist.  Long hair is better suited for skateboarders and surfers, not professional baseball players. 

 

What kind of example does Lincecum’s selection set for our sons who are pitchers? According to the voters, it’s okay if you smoke pot or do drugs or do steroids; as long as you win ballgames, you can still win the Cy Young award.  In my mind, voters should look at how a player lives his life off of the field as well as their record on the field.  But then, maybe I’m just old-fashioned.  Back in the day, professional baseball players (and professional players in other sports as well) were held to higher standards in their personal lives.  Standards for professional athletes have slipped just like the standards of our modern society have slipped into the abyss. 

 

As far as his performance on the field, Lincecum only had 15 wins this season.  Lincecum faded in the stretch.   Waino and Carp both had more wins than Lincecum.  If Waino had won his 20th game, he would have been a shoo-in for the Cy.  Kyle McClellan owes Waino a big, fat apology for losing that 20th game. 

 

We only have one more award to look forward to during this off-season, and that’s the NL MVP award next week.  If my standards were applied to the voting, Albert Pujols would win in a landslide. 

 

I need some chocolate to get over this rejection of our beloved Cards pitchers.  See you next time!

 

Diane

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13 thoughts on “We was robbed

  1. I could not believe what I was hearing when the name of the winner was announced!! I thought either Carp or Waino was a sure thing, and I would have been thrilled either way! It will take a while for me to get over this one……

  2. I’m as much a hardcore fan as the next person, but I am completely offended at the lack of logic in this post. The Cards were not robbed, although if I had a choice Carp would have gotten it over Wainwright (between the 2).

    Lincecum was just as deserving – he pitched for a team that had nearly zero offense. I have to think people who know baseball understand the difficulty of this.

    But what I really found offensive was:

    “Instead, this prestigious award is given to a pot smoking, long haired hippy from San Francisco. Does he wear flowers in his hair? Okay, maybe the hair is a non-factor. ”

    So is the pot smoking! They don’t vote on players based on what their offenses are. And furthermore, the pot possession was an issue AFTER the voting was done.

    “Long hair is better suited for skateboarders and surfers, not professional baseball players.”

    Totally irrelevant.

    “What kind of example does Lincecum’s selection set for our sons who are pitchers? According to the voters, it’s okay if you smoke pot or do drugs or do steroids; as long as you win ballgames, you can still win the Cy Young award. ”

    The voting was done BEFORE the offense.

    “In my mind, voters should look at how a player lives his life off of the field as well as their record on the field.”

    Well, that is not what the voting is done based on. The voting is done based on pitching, which is the way it should be. Furthermore, if he really did smoke pot while he was pitching, his numbers are even more impressive. Pot would interfere with rational thinking, which is something a pitcher needs in order to compete. This is not a performance enhancing drug. It is a performance impeding drug. You can hardly compare it to steroids, that is ridiculous. So Lincecum is even more super human if he was able to post the numbers he did while high. Keep in mind I can’t stand the guy. He is a great pitcher, though.

    You said, “Back in the day, professional baseball players (and professional players in other sports as well) were held to higher standards in their personal lives. Standards for professional athletes have slipped just like the standards of our modern society have slipped into the abyss. ”

    Not really. Mickey Mantle and many other athletes got away with a lot of crap back in the ’50s. Everyone looked the other way because that’s what people did back then. Did he ever show up sober?

    I do not condone illicit drug use. But using this kind of rationale is very weak to justify Carp or Waino getting “robbed.”

  3. Whining about something as insignificant as Tim Lincecum’s hair seems pointless.

    There were a handful of really deserving candidates for this award – but only one can win, obviously. Lincecum pitched really well, with little real back up from his team, which the writers probably took into consideration when they voted for him. ‘Being robbed’ has nothing to do with it, and my toes curl to have to actually point that out.

    Baseball is populated with players of all mind sets and personalities. It makes things interesting.

    Carol http://www.howboutthosephils.mlblogs.com

  4. I too think it is a load of bs that they gave it to Lincecum. It was no more than a popularity contest and everybody is in love with that longed haired pot smoker.

  5. I have never heard that everyone loves Lincecum, but he is a great pitcher, and I can say that even though I’m a Cardinal fan. It seems like a lot of people hate him because he’s good. The people posting these comments about him being “favored” really have nothing to go on. I’d have loved to see Carp win, but Lincecum is a very deserving pitcher for a team with little offense. That has nothing to do with it being a popularity contest.

  6. Whatever individual wrote this blog is simply an idiot. Using wins tomeasure a pitcher’s skill? Come on, baseball fans should know better than that. Lincecum had the highest K rate and the best FIP. 10.49 K/9. That is disgusting. Only top closers put up better numbers than that. Carp was close in K:BB, but Timmy wins out there. When you look at the run support, and the quality of pitching unaided by dence (FIP) it is clear that Timmy was the best option.

    In addition, like church and state, off-field behaviour should not have an effect on recognition for on-field excellence. The awards are about what goes on between the lines. Lincecum was the best pitcher in the NL. That is what the award is for. That is why he won.

  7. I agree, I would like to have an intelligent discussion on the subject, but someone who uses wins to measure this doesn’t seem to be looking at the big picture. I can’t stand the team he pitches for but he was a deserving winner. And you said ”
    “What kind of example does Lincecum’s selection set for our sons who are pitchers?” For my son who pitches, the example is if you pitch your best and are very good, you might win the Cy Young.

  8. Kyle McClellan, I hope you’re happy now. Adam Wainwright left the field in the 8th inning with a six run lead during his last start which was for his 20th win of the season. He had been given a curtain call when he reached the dugout. You came in with the task of getting an easy “hold” which would have ensured Adam’s first CY Young Award. You choked! You allowed the two runners Adam left on base to score and game up four more runs of your own with two outs. Thanks to you, Adam got a no-decision.
    Now, instead of being known as the local fan favorite from Florissant you will be remembered as the guy who blew it for Adam. Bill Buckner’s got nothing on you!

  9. Baseball butterfly & others here who didn’t “buy into” the homers’ argument: It is nice to read some voices of reason posting instead of the crying you are hearing on all these blogs! It seems some people cannot accept that wins, losses and no-decisions are NOT the only criteria and in fact are the lesser important stats when considering Cy Young worthiness! I dislike Lincecum because he’s a Giant, but I don’t disagree he was a hell of a great pitcher this year. Some of these posts are so not thought out very well, it’s embarrassing to other women to read because it’s almost as if women don’t really know the game. I don’t think that way just because someone disagrees with me, but when their points are weak.

  10. Stop hating on Lincecum, this is a kid who very few baseball “experts” thought he’d make it…he was the BEST and most DOMINATING pitcher in the NL, and to top, it, he did this with a team which has ZERO offense. Put Carpentner or “Waino” on the Giants team, and they MIGHT win 10 games…no comparison, Lincecum’s skills reminds me a right-handed Steve Carlton, nasty, filthy stuff on the mound. Also, let’s not toss stones when we live in glass houses, this society is going to hell in a handcart, we just elected a socialist for prez, we’re bankrupt, and we’re concerned about Lincecum’s hair? Hilarious, STL is a huge baseball city, but it also leads the nation in homicides, again, nothing to do with BB, so stick with BB on the blogs and forget amount the minutae of civil behavior. BTW, How about my Yanks!

  11. Lincecum was the best pitcher in the NL hands down this year. Wainwright was a very good 2nd. But as some of the others have pointed out here, the logic in this post is pretty bad.

    Lincecum led the league in K’s again, his 2nd place ERA finish was in 4 more starts than that of Carpenter, his FIP was best in the league, and he was worth 8 wins to the Giants this year vs Carpenter’s 5. I do believe that if Carpenter had gone a whole season at the same pace he had all year he would have had a shot to be Cy Young winner.

    And the argument that he faded down the stretch is ludicrous. He was 2-3 during the month of September with only one bad start. Of the 3 losses, the Giants scored a total of 2 runs in those games, while Timmy only gave up an average of 3 runs (one of those games was his bad start).

    Lincecum deserved the award, and I’m glad he won it.

  12. Lincecum was the best pitcher in the NL hands down this year. Wainwright was a very good 2nd. But as some of the others have pointed out here, the logic in this post is pretty bad.

    Lincecum led the league in K’s again, his 2nd place ERA finish was in 4 more starts than that of Carpenter, his FIP was best in the league, and he was worth 8 wins to the Giants this year vs Carpenter’s 5. I do believe that if Carpenter had gone a whole season at the same pace he had all year he would have had a shot to be Cy Young winner.

    And the argument that he faded down the stretch is ludicrous. He was 2-3 during the month of September with only one bad start. Of the 3 losses, the Giants scored a total of 2 runs in those games, while Timmy only gave up an average of 3 runs (one of those games was his bad start).

    Lincecum deserved the award, and I’m glad he won it.

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